"Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is
Jesus's response to this statement is very important. Remember Jesus was not soulish, but spiritual. He immediately would have discerned that Nicodemus's statement was not kosher. Nicodemus could only come to the conclusion that God was with Him because of the signs which he saw. Nicodemus - who was a member of the Sanhedrin - had clearly not experienced anything which was spiritual. He lived in the outward realm of his soul. One living in the Presence of God can immediate sense when something said is not kosher. Red lights go off if one's spirit. On the surface, this statement may appear to be kosher, but to One living in the very Presence of God it is not.
Some today seem to be confused too. Many today, even amongst the church, do not know the difference between that which is SOULish and that which is SPIRITual. Many do not understand the what it means to ABIDE in Him. The Presence of God. The FLESH is another term which is not understood by those who are like Nicodemus. The rock-solid Classical Christian foundation above helps to galvanise these truths. It brings one to clearly separate between that which is SOULish and that which is SPIRITual.
Notice that the Holy Spirit reveals the hidden things of Nicodemus's statement from back to front, from end to beginning. After bringing to light the importance of living in the inner realm in the Presence of God - the kingdom of God which is God in us and God with us through the Holy Spirit - and revealing the way to come to experience this state: the new birth, Jesus continues to move from back to front, from end to beginning. Signs. Teacher. We. Rabbi. (See highlighted terms in Nicodemus's statement)
In verse 8, we the sound of the wind relates to the signs in Nicodemus's statement. Here Jesus states that one like Nicodemus - the natural man - cannot comprehend the inner things of God unless one is born again. He then goes on (verse 10) to say that a teacher of Israel should understand the inner walk with God - the things of the spirit. I have found that many preachers of the gospel also do not have clarity concerning the inner walk with the Lord. It comes forth in what they say and preach. Their message is not consistent with the classical Christian foundation. Those who are NOT spiritual do not see these things; but one who is mature in God - in the end stage of classical Christianity - will immediately discern the true inner nature of a preacher.
In verse 11, 'We' is emphasised. Nicodemus used 'we' in his statement to refer to the rest of the Sanhedrin. Jesus, however, spoke of union with God. His unity with the Holy Spirit and the Father in heaven. Plurality stamps authority on the words that He says. This also shows the union with God which is the end of the journey for one who has been born again. When the born again spirit becomes alive, he begins to turn inwardly to the Lord. Eventually union with God becomes a reality if we allow the Lord to take us through the tough long middle stage of classical Christianity.
The passage after this (verse 14 - 20) reveals that Jesus is more than a Rabbi. He is the Saviour of the world, the Saviour of those who repent and turn to Him. This passage reveals the truth that is needed to be born again. The 'lifting up of the serpent' points to the atonement and the substitutionary sacrifice that Jesus made for us. This is part of the sinner's prayer which is often prayed when one is born again.
I come before you today as a sinner,
I have followed my own way,
Forgive me, cleanse me of my sins,
I repent this day,
I lay my life at Your cross,
I acknowledge that You died for my sins,
Was buried and rose again on the third day.
I confess You today as my Lord and Saviour
I come to you Jesus as the Christ, the Son of the Living God.
and ask You to guide me and show me Your Way.
Does classical Christianity give any place to such teaching at all? Yes, there is some truth here. We cannot tear these verses concerning words and mountain-moving faith out of the Bible. However, the speaking with power should only occur when we are overshadowed by the Presence of the Lord when we are drawn in the Holy of holies - and this occurs more often if we have allowed the Lord to take us through the tough long middle stage of the journey. Kathryn Kuhlman lived here. However, very few today - almost none - are walking in the end stage in which Kathryn Kuhlman ministered.
In other words, the self life needs to die. It is the place of "the word of His power" and not the place of the power of His word. There is a place in Christ where we can minister out of His power. Here our words - which actually are His words as we become one with Him, our will completely surrendered to His will - have power through the Presence of God and mountain-moving faith operates. It is the place where the prophet Samuel lived. He spoke and none of his words fell to the ground. It comes out of a deep communion with Jesus where our wills are completely surrendered to His will - the end stage of the classical Christian journey.
However, this is vastly different from what is taught today in some circles i.e. take the Scriptures and promises of God and confess them. This is unbiblical and does not help. Much of what is done today is done in faith. There are MANY who SAY they are operating in this realm today but it is clearly evident that they are not. We are NOT the prophets of our own destiny. We are to surrender our lives fulfilling His destiny, His plans and His purpose.
Let us ensure that we are established in the rock-solid Classical Christian foundation above, for it clarifies the way toward ministering in this realm. Unfortunately, the greater body of Christ has deviated from this foundation are are void of the true spiritual power which comes from His Presence. This comes only once He has transformed us through our surrendering to His cross and dying to our self life. More concerning this process can be found under Tabernacle Notes.